ABR Grooming Snowmobile Review

Purpose

This is a review of the top utility snowmobiles on the market as of March 2007.   There has been a huge void in the utility snowmobile market since 1995 when the Ski-doo dual-track Alpine manufacturing was stopped.  Since that time there have been various wide track snowmobiles manufactured and one dual-track snowmobile manufactured in Italy.  This utility snowmobile review relates to hard utility chores such as grooming cross country ski trails.   The dual track has always been a favorite because of its wide compaction platform, low gearing, and high traction.  The Ski-doo Alpine did a good job of grooming, however, it fell short in the areas of steering , maneuverability, and most importantly operator comfort.  The single track utility machines have come a long way since 1994.  The Ski-doo Skandic, superwide track (SWT) is Bombardier’s replacemen for  the Ski-doo Alpine.  It debuted in 1995.  It has had a few minor changes since 1995, such as an increase in displacement from  499 to 550 cc, and improved voltage regulation and lighting  but basically the machine has remained unchanged for the past decade.

Test Machines

The machines were the 2006 Ski-doo Skandic, SWT, the 2005 Ski-doo Expedition TUV, the 2007 Yamaha VK Professional, the 2007 Ski-doo Skandic SWT V800, the 2009 Polaris Widetrack IQ, and a 2006 Dual track Alpina Sherpa.

Objective

The chore of grooming with a snowmobile is more complex than one would think.  The snowmobile must pull a 200-300 lb groomer with up to 1500 pounds of pulling resistance due to the groomer teeth or knives,  and  carried snow, while maintaining, traction, steering, and most importantly cooling at very low speeds, typically 4-6 miles per hour.  The low speeds require low gearing and low rpm clutch engagements to prevent belt burning.  The cooling systems must either be fan cooled or liquid cooled with a radiator and fan.  The typical heat exchanger under the tunnel and floor boards does not provide enough cooling in slow grooming operations on hard surfaces without loose snow present .  Special devices on the back of the skis have been tried unsuccessfully to spray snow on to the heat exchangers.  The low speed application of grooming requires a transmission with low gearing.  Wide ratio clutches have been tried unsuccessfully.  Traction requirements are a wide and long track with a medium size lug that is able to be studded for ice.  Suspension requirements include a stiff rear suspension that does not squat with the weight of the groomer but delivers adequate ski pressure for steering.  Reverse in the transmission is mandatory.  The suspension does not need to be soft for dampening bumps because trail grooming is done on a relatively smooth surface.  In the last five years, trail grooming implements have had electric actuators as standard equipment, the grooming implement has two to three actuators standard with each actuator drawing 20 to 30 amps and consisting of a reversible twelve volt electric motor.  The ideal grooming machine has a twelve volt battery and charging system, able to keep with these electric loads.  A heavy duty hitch is also a requirement.

The Ideal Grooming Snowmobile

The future ideal grooming snowmobile would come with a powerful 4 stroke EFI engine with a low geared transmission. It would have a large radiator and heated floor boards without under tunnel heat exchangers that drop slush on the trail which is picked up by the grooming implements. The machine would also have ducts from the radiator and fan to the operator and windshield area. The dash would be equipped with a fuel and temperature gauge and a tachometer, an odometer and large digital speedometer. The machine would  have three double reversing polarity, self centering switches mounted conveniently on the left handle bar or left section of the dash to operate the groomer  with 30 amp fuses readily accessible.  The ideal grooming machine would also come wired with a 6-8 pin receptacle and a switched rear work light since most grooming is done in the dark hours when the skiers are sleeping. The ideal grooming machine would have bogie wheels that do not require loose snow for lubrication like the slide systems, and a dash adjustable shock for varying traction and steering depending on snow conditions. The seat configuration would be a one up seat with a backrest that would flip down for 2 up capacity.  The ideal grooming snowmobile would have a factory installed heavy duty pintle hitch and a large storage area.

Grooming Snowmobile Comparison
Snowmobile Maximum Ski-doo SWT Ski-doo SWT Yamaha Alpina Ski-doo TUV Polaris
Points 550 Fan V-800 VK-Pro Sherpa 1000 Widetrak IQ II
Model Year 2007 2008 2007 2006 2006 2009
Fuel Economy 10 5 10 9 9 9 9
Cooling 20 19 18 10 19 14 20
Power 10 8 9 10 10 9 9
Traction 15 9 14 13 14 11 11
Steering 20 12 13 15 18 11 12
Controls 5 4 5 1 5 5 4
Cold Starts 3 2 3 1 3 3 3
Hitch 2 1 1 1 2 1 1
Noise 5 1 4 3 4 3 3
Odor 5 1 4 4 5 4 4
Vibration 3 2 3 3 2 2 2
Seat 2 1 2 2 2 1 2
100 65 86 72 93 73 80

Review

Ski doo Skandic SWTThe Ski-doo Skandic SWT 550 fan, the two stroke 550 engine has been very dependable for grooming although it has poor fuel economy and the noise and smell of the two stroke engine. If the 69.1 dB drive by and 86.0 dB static noise levels don’t bother you, you will enjoy industry leading cooling system charcteristics.  The cooling system of this machine has been very reliable but operators in warmer climates and high altitudes have installed after market cylinder head temperature gauges.  The 24 inch wide track has a low .9 inch profile but offers 4 inches of extra width over other wide track machines.  The two speed synchromesh transmission has proven very reliable over the past 12 years provided it gets its gear lube changed.  The articulated rear suspension has three basic adjustments; the front telescopic suspension has none.  The machine steers as well as the old Alpine but more importantly, with two skis it backs up for long distances.  This SWT can be found with additional operator installed nose weights and after market Simmons skis to enhance steering performance.  The wide tunnel and low seat do not offer comfort for the long legged operators.  The stator based electric charging system is able to keep up with most groomers electric needs if a low wattage rear work light is installed. Voltage  regulators appear to be the weak link in this system. The machine puts out  240 watts at 6000 rpm.

Ski doo Skandic SWTThe Ski-doo Skandic SWT 4-TEC V-800 four stroke came out in 2007, using the V 800 engine that was proven in the Can Am 4-wheelers.This is an electronic fuel injected engine.  The low end torque and engine power is very good with low noise, 61.4 dB drive by and 80.0 dB static, and there is no odor due to the four stroke engine.  The engine started very well and was tested in -20F conditions.  The engine did have some flat spots and I question whether it was thoroughly mapped at low speeds for grooming.  I would still take this four stroke EFI engine over any four stroke carbureted engine available on the market.  It weighs in at 717 lbs (59 lbs more than the SWT 550 fan).  It also has the 24 inch wide by 156 inch long track and it has the same suspension as the SWT 550 fan.  The track lug has been increased to 1.25 inches which gives a substantial increase to deep snow traction. The engine cooling system worked flawlessly over the 1500 miles of grooming. The machine did indicate in the low hard snow, heavy pulling applications that it was getting warm, however, the heat alarm never came on.  (The heat alarm was tested and did work.) An optional temperature gauge is available.  While the machine has the same width tunnel as the SWT 550 fan, it has a wider and taller contoured seat for more comfort.  The electrical system worked well and has plenty of power for high power work lights in addition to actuators.  It appears the Skidoo engineers were trying to satisfy the grooming requirements as they installed a three position switch on the left handle grip and a twelve volt cigarette lighter style receptacle on the rear of the machine.  The switch does not self center and does not reverse polarity. While this outlet can be used for a work light, it is useless to operate actuators….maybe next year.  The V-800 was tested for a complete season and logged 1500 miles without any issues.

Ski-doo TUV 1000The Ski-doo Expedition TUV V1000, was tested with the Rotax V-1000 four stroke with SOHC.  This is a 2 cylinder sequential EFI engine with a tuned muffler, 64.1 dB drive by and 86.3 dB static,  that sounds “Harley like” but is fairly quiet.  This engine is rumored to have been detuned and designed for the high performance touring sleds.  Published HP is not available but we are guessing it could be close to 90  HP. It was only in the 2005 and 2006 TUV; in 2007 the V-800 replaced it.  The EFI was mapped/tuned, started well, and had very good low end performance.  Cooling was an issue however.  The test machine was equipped with an optional radiator fan kit from Ski-doo ($800.00).  The machine performed well in all but hard packed, icy conditions at low speeds when it would over heat pulling heavy loads.  The TUV was compared with the VK Pro for cooling and the TUV would last 30-40 % longer before the heat alarm came on. It housed the same dependable transmissions as the SWT’s but was built on a Yeti Chassis.  The front suspension is a curved swing arm with a hydraulic shock and the rear suspension has the SUV suspension with twin shocks, hydraulic and gas.  It is a softer higher travel suspension but still offers adjustability for grooming.  However, it takes a more skilled operator to get this machine to steer properly under load.  This was our choice in operator comfort with its comfortable seat, softer suspension, and appeared to be more agile in light grooming applications.  The electrical system puts out 40 amps, or approximately 480 watts, and did the electric chores without any issues.  Like the V-800, it houses the 12 volt battery under the seat for easy access.  The TUV that was tested had been operated for two seasons and had 3200 miles of grooming without any  issues other than a few overheat alarms.  We understand that the TUV may not be available for 2008.

Yamaha VK ProThe Yamaha VK Professional is a new machine that came out in 2006 to replace the Viking 540.  This machine appears to be built with heavy duty work in mind; it houses the Genesis 120 engine which is a four stroke 3 cylinder engine delivering 120 HP!

It debuted in 2006 with a wide ratio clutch and no low range transmission, however in 2007 a high low range two speed transmission was standard.  The four stroke engine is  carburated

And even as an experienced groomer and snowmobile operator, I have found the carburated engine difficult to start in cold and warm environments.  Rookie operators will most likely have trouble with this feature. Yamaha has an EFI 1000 cc engine but it is not intended for this machine in 2008.  The engine fell short in 2006 with poor cooling and the addition of the two speed gear box may have improved cooling slightly but the machine still overheated in testing.  The combination of the 20x156x1.25 inch Camoplast Ripsaw track and the well tuned suspension gave this machine plenty of traction and steering.  The front suspension and rear suspension were totally adjustable and provided the best traction steering combination on the market for single wide track machines.

The machine was comfortable to operate with the exception of it being very difficult to shift. It had an optional pintle hitch that was inadequate like all the other utility machines.  The electric system was able to keep up with the grooming needs.

The machine came with a factory spec sheet that included the set up for heavy groomer pulling,(suspension settings, gearing, clutch setting, and ski runners). The 2006 model was tested for a season and logged 800 miles, the 2007 was tested for one season and logged 700 miles. A few hard starts, spark plug changes, hitch failure and overheat issues were experienced along with some frustrated shifts from low to reverse.

Polaris Widetrack IQ IIWe tested a 2009 Polaris Widetrack IQ for about a month in the Spring as well as late winter conditions mainly grooming ski trails. While this sled wasn’t tested in all the same conditions as the others its outstanding cooling ability and the venerable IQ platform meant it couldn’t be ignored. However, the machine was also tested as a standard utility machine, (hauling wood, pulling a sled etc) as well as tested it in some late season powder. The front suspension on the Widetrack was up to all the tasks we threw at it with ample amounts of ski pressure to facilitate good steering. However, the rear suspension was too soft even in at its stiffest setting to facilitate good grooming. The bobbing motion of the rear suspension required constant readjusting of groomer teeth which is tricky and annoying. The low end torque of the 80 hp four stroke was comparable to the V-800. We found no issues with the tipped rail rear suspension in grooming applications. The noise of the Widetrack is indeed an issue as it was 69.7 dB on drive by tests and at 86.0 dB in static testing. It did appear that an exhaust gasket would silence the leaky and noisy exhaust before it entered the muffler. The shifter on the Widetrack definitely needed some tweaking which we chalk up to the fact that the prototype just wasnt quite tuned in yet. The biggest and best feature of this utility sled, as far as grooming is concerned is its exceptional cooling ability. The machine was run in some of the worst spring conditions, hardpack snow and ice, and warm temperatures, pulling the largest Ginzu grommer offered, 9 feet, and it never once overheated. The motor was steady at 185 F compared to the SWT V-800 running at well over 230 F. The fuel consumption of the Widetrack was  8.8 mpg with the V-800 coming in with 12.8 mpg. We believe that the EFI was not properly tuned, defaulting to running on the rich side in this early model. If Polaris can get the rear suspension stiffened, this machine will be a very strong contendor for the Trail Groomers.

Alpina SherpaThe dual track Alpina Sherpa is the Hummer of grooming snowmobiles.  This snowmobile, if you can call it that, is hand built in Vicenza, Italy and has been built since 2002. The 4 stroke machine weighs in at 1360 lbs and houses a 1.4 liter EFI automotive Peugot engine.  The 75 HP engine coupled with its two speed low range transmission can creep at the slowest grooming speeds without burning belts. The cooling system consists of an automotive radiator and dual electric fans and heat exchanger floorboards.  The machine ran relatively hot during testing as indicated by the analog temperature gauge but the temperature alarm never sounded during even the hardest chores (the factory explained the cooling system is designed to run hot for efficient engine performance and clean exhaust emissions).  The combination of the catalytic converter,  muffler and dual oxygen sensors created clean exhaust and a quiet operation.  The tracks are dual 20x156x1.2 inch and provided plenty of traction, compaction, and floatation.  The simple rear bogie suspension provided very little travel which was perfect for pulling heavy loads and the bogies worked very well in hard snow since they did not require the lubrication of the slides systems.  The telescopic front suspension steered the machine very well in all conditions except deep unpacked powder.  The large work platform and running boards created a nice work area for operating the machine and hauling gear.  The heated seat and heated floor boards provided operator comfort even in the coldest conditions, (too bad they could not duct the hot air from the radiator up to the windshield and operators area).  The machine did create more snow dust that would collect on the operator with its large non vented hood.  The electronic dash has 13 alarms, 4 gauges, and 2 computers to keep the operator in tune to the engine and operating systems.  In addition to the automotive alternator with plenty of electrical capacity, the machine can be factory ordered with switches  and rear connectors for grooming actuators and work lights.  The machine comes with a heavy duty pintle hitch and an optional two inch receiver.  We have tested and groomed with the Alpina Sherpa for four seasons logging over 2,000 kilometers on 3 machines with no major problems pulling the largest groomers available on the market.  The retail price on this machine is $32,500 and availability is limited.

Grooming Snowmobile Specifications
Snowmobile Units Ski-doo SWT Ski-doo SWT Yamaha Alpina Ski-doo TUV Polaris
550 Fan V-800 VK-Pro Sherpa 1000 Widetrak IQ II
Studded
Weight pounds 610 717 765 1,360 720 730
Power HP 65 est 58 est 120 75 90 est 80
Track (width/lg/lug) inches 24x156x.9 24x156x1.25 20 x156x1.25 2x20x156x1.2 24x156x1.25 20 x156x1.25
Suspension slides slides slides bogie ATSS slides slides
Cooling type fan radiator & exc radiator & exc radiator & exc radiator & exc radiator & exc
Charging Circuit watts 240 480 ? 1,000 480 ?
Temp Gauge yes/no no optional optional yes no yes
HD Pintle Hitch yes/no no no optional yes no no
Studable yes/no yes no yes yes ? yes
Pulling power in snow pounds force 480 760 690 800 590 700 estimate
Pulling power on hard pounds force 940 1,100 1,180 1,580 980 1050 estimate
Pulling power on ice pounds force 1,040 770 800 840 780 NA
Turning Radius feet 34 41 39 38 44 42
Noise level (Drive by) decibels A 68.1 61.2 NA NA 64.1 69.7
Fuel Economy mpg 4.5 12.8 9.2 8.5 10.7 8.8
List Price (USD) $8,949 $10,199 $10,599 $32,500 $9,899
Measurements were made at ABR Trails by Eric Anderson and an independent testing team and published factory brochures
The Polaris had an exhaust leak accounting for higher noise levels

The grooming tests

Taking force measurements
Taking force measurements

The testing that was done was a combination of objective and subjective assessments.

Fuel Economy was measured in various conditions with the majority of the time spent pulling medium sized groomers.

Cooling was tested on hard snow condions pulling a medium size groomer on hilly terrain at various ambient temperatures.

Power was evaluated pulling groomers up hills.

Traction was measured with a force gauge in various conditions pulling a groomer.

Steering was measured on a level surface with a weighted rear suspension simulating the groomer. Steering was also evaluated on the trails on uphill climbs with curves.

Noise, odor and vibration were evaluated during the grooming tests.

Cold starts were conducted at -20 F.

The author:

Eric  Anderson is the co-owner and operator of ABR Ski Trails and has a passion for grooming equipment.  He is a licensed mechanical engineer from the automotive industry with several patents in drive train and hydraulic components.  He has been operating and testing grooming equipment since 1994 when he and his father opened the ABR Ski Trails to the public grooming with an Artic Cat long track and two Ski-doo Alpines.  Eric has been skiing and snowmobiling since the age of 10 years old.  He has been contracted as a groomer and consultant for several high level ski events throughout the Midwest.

The testers:

Rick Slade participated as a tester and evaluator for this article.

Rick has been a snowmobile mechanic for 29 years and has been an avid snowmobiler for 40 years.  Rick has been grooming ski trails and skiing for the last 7 years.

Kevin Balduc  is a college student who has been snowmobiling for ten years and grooming and skiing for two years.

Angela Santini, wife of Eric Anderson, assisted in data compilation and recording.

Grooming DVDThe Fundamentals of Ski Trail Grooming is a one hour long instructional  DVD, which ABR created on basic grooming and is on sale now for $29.95.  ABR has hosted seven Midwest Grooming Clinics,  which attract 50 to 100 groomers from across the country and 8 to 20 vendors of grooming vehicles and grooming implements.  The 2009 Midwest Grooming Clinic is scheduled for January 20th and 21st (Tuesday and Wednesday).

ABR tests groomers on their 60 km trail system from mid-November into April. ABR sells new and used grooming equipment and used grooming snowmobiles across the country.

Eric Anderson is working on a review of ATV vehicles with track systems, Advanced Grooming   and a Trail Building and Maintaining  DVD which should be ready next year.

Ski Trail Grooming Costs with a Snowmobile

Equipment
4 stroke Ski Doo SWT $9,800
84 inch Ginzu and tracksetter $4,100
Roller and drag $2500
Shipping/Set up $400
Tax $1,008
Total $17,808
Operations
Gas: 100 miles/7 gallons (14.2 MPG) @ $2.50 /gallon = $0.18/mile
Estimate 2000 miles/year for a 40 km trail system in the snowbelt: 2,000 x $0.18
$360
Labor: 2,000 miles at 5 miles /hour = 400 hours
400 hours @ $25/hour with fringes/comp taxes
$1,000
Annual Fixed Costs
Registration $25
Belts/plugs/gear oil/tail light/windshield $300
Insurance $550
Depreciation $2,544
Tax $350
Cost of Snowmobile Grooming
Total $5,129.00
$5,129/2,000 miles = $2.56/mile

2008 Grooming Clinic Agenda

This year ABR will again be hosting the Midwest Grooming Clinic, Tuesday and Wednesday Jan 15 and 16th 2008. The format will be set the same as we have had the last 7 years .

What is a Grooming Clinic?

For those of you who have not heard of the Clinic, let me try to describe it as a combination of a Clinic, Seminar, Workshop, Trade Show, and Show and Tell. You can take part, demo equipment, exchange ideas with the pro’s and vendors or you can browse the demo’s and watch and listen to the presentations. Groomers from the most experienced to novices are invited and have attended. Even veteran groomers will learn something if they keep an open mind. Speakers are invited from all over the country. Dress warm for the outdoor mornings and cooler for the afternoon indoor talks. Don’t forget to bring your ski clothes!

Costs

The cost for the Clinic is $150/person or vendor.

This includes printed grooming material and handouts, a 60 minute grooming DVD, rolls and coffee, lunch both days and the Wednesday night dinner. Trail use for grooming and/or skiing. Grooming Clinic instruction, clinic seminars, workshops, demo opportunity, etc.

We will have free ski rentals and beginner ski instruction for all registered participants.

Lodging

Book your lodging and ask for the groomers clinic discount. Check the ABR website for lodging and links …www.abrski.com

Clinic Equipment

  1. 2008 Pisten Bully PB 100 with Bachelor Renovator
  2. 2007 Can Am ATV with a blade and Mattracks Litefoot M3 Tracks
  3. Small and Medium Tidd Tech G2 groomer with the scratchers
  4. Yellowstone Track System Ginzu Groomer 60”, 84”, 108”
  5. Alpina powertiller
  6. Ski-Doo SWT 550 Fan, SWT v-800 4 stroke, TUV 1000 4 Stroke,
  7. Kubota RTV by Lulich
  8. TJD Track Systems?
  9. 4 stroke Yamaha VK Pro
  10. ASV Scout
  11. Polaris Ranger with Mattracks
  12. ATV with with Mattracks
  13. Various Rollers and drags
  14. Bachelor Renovator
  15. Prinoth Groomer?
  16. Hiss Groomer?

There were many sales as a result of the Clinic. Vendors did sell their demos and we are encouraging this year’s vendors to load up their trucks and trailers for the Clinic.

The heated “Race Building” will again house tables for vendor’s displays, and will have grooming video tapes/DVD’s playing during the 2 days.

Tentative Schedule

Tuesday January 15th

8- 9:00 Registration coffee and rolls in the Groomer Barn

sponsored by Hurley Motor Sports (Formerly Aves)

9- 12:00 Vendor Demos across the road at the dog ski trails

15-20minutes /vendors on snow and hands on equipment demos following

12:00-1:30 Pasty lunch in the Wax/Groomer Barn sponsored by Mattracks

1:30-2:00 Choosing your grooming snowmobile/ evaluation of 5 popular machines

2:00-2:30 Grooming in low snow conditions: Peter Crookes

2:30-3:00 Grooming from a Skiers Prospective: Jim Waters

3:00-3:30 Grooming with a powertiller : Greg Toomire

3:30-4:00 Grooming in heavy snow: Eric Anderson

4:00-5:00 Open skiing and demo of grooming equipment

6:30 –7:30 Social hour and vendors indoor table displays at Tacconellis 215 S. Suffolk St in Downtown Ironwood. Social hour sponsored by Tidd Tech

7:30-8:30 Dinner at Tacconelli’s sponsored by ABR Trails

Tacconellis is on the intersection of McCloud and Suffolk Streets, turn left at the last intersection instead of going to US2 on Lake Street after leaving ABR

8:30-9:00 Presentation : TBD

9:00–9:10 Grooming Trivia Test and Prizes

Wednesday Jan 16th

8-9 AM coffee and rolls sponsored by __________

9:00-9:30 Grooming demonstration for deep snow

9:30-10:00 Grooming demonstration competitions on ice

10:00-10:15 Snow Cat Renovator demonstration

10:15-10:45 How to make your snowmobile steer with a groomer

10:45-11:15 Snowmobile Grooming Safety by Rick Slade

11:30-12:30 Bratwurst Lunch sponsored by Pisten Bully

12:30- 1:30 Grooming 101 (Chalkboard Discussion) Eric Anderson

1:30-2:30 Basic grooming on snow- hands on

2:30-3:30 Setting up your Snowmobile for grooming Rick Slade (wiring, cooling and suspension)

3:30-5:00 Open skiing and grooming

This tentative schedule is being developed and details and specifics subject to change. Watch the website for updates. The general time slots will remain the same.

Bring your used equipment that you have for sale or a photo and ad to post on the FOR SALE board at the clinic!

Grooming Economics

Conserving Snow and Money
Budget and Weather
Goals
Race/Event Grooming
Touring Center
Resort with Guests
Ski Club
Back Yard Trail
Municipality Park on a budget
Weekly grooming/contract
Empty Resort
Decisions
Snowcat grooming vs Snowmobile grooming
$100/hour and hard snow
$2.50/mile and soft snow
1 pass vs 2 passes
Skate marks on the edges
Perfect cordoroy
Skate lanes buffing vs complete renovation
Slow snow, but looks nice and is fast….. easy to groom
Fast snow, sturdy and durable surface …. slow to groom
Re-tracking vs not re-tracking
Set up time
Track condition
Glazed track
Safe track
Grooming all of the trails vs. partial trails
Groom the hilly trails to make them safe
Groom the flat trails and close the hilly trails
Leave one trail ungroomed and label it “not groomed” as a groomer appreciation trail
Alternate days for grooming a portion of the trails and post it for skiers to plan their routes
Groom for your audience
Race skiers
Recreational skiers
Classic skiers vs Skate skiers
Groom for the forecast
No new snow for the next few days ….groom conservatively, get a nice firm track in and leave it
New snow daily, start grooming narrow and widening daily to avoid plowing snow off

2006 Grooming Clinic Agenda

This year ABR will again be hosting the Midwest Grooming Clinic, Wednesday and Thursday Jan 18 and 19th 2006. The format will be set the same as we have had the last 4 years.

What is a Grooming Clinic?

For those of you who have not heard of the Clinic, let me try to describe it as a combination of a Clinic, Seminar, Workshop, Trade Show, and Show and Tell. You can take part, demo equipment, exchange ideas with the pro’s and vendors or you can browse the demo’s and watch and listen to the presentations. Groomers from the most experienced to novices are invited and have attended. Even veteran groomers will learn something if they keep an open mind. Speakers are invited from all over the country. Dress warm for the outdoor mornings and cooler for the afternoon indoor talks. Don’t forget to bring your ski clothes!

Costs/Meals

The cost for the Clinic is $150/person, This includes rolls and coffee and lunch both days and the Wed night dinner.

We will have free ski rentals and beginner ski instruction for all registered participants.

Lodging

Book your lodging and ask for the groomers clinic discount.

ABR Trailside Lodging 906-932-3502 Classic Motor Inn 906-932-2000

Black River Lodge 906-932-3857 The Montreal Inn B & B 715-561-5180

Indianhead Motel 906-932 2031 Anton-Walsh House B&B 715-561-2065

Invited Clinic Vendors to be confirmed.

  1. Pisten Bully with new innovations from PB ©
  2. Bombardier by Aspen Equipment with a Bombardier groomer
  3. Tidd Tech with the NEW G2 groomers and new innovations ©
  4. Yellowstone Track Systems with the NEW Ginzu Groomer and gooseneck©
  5. Alpina with the NEW dual-track Sherpa Snowmobile and powertiller©
  6. Xcskigroomers with the Sno Razor groomer and cutter bar
  7. Ski-Doo by Ave’s Sport Center©
  8. KRC Snow Paver
  9. Snow Implements …. A dealer for YTS, Tidd Tech, Alpina and Trakor©
  10. Northland Equipment with Arctic Cat and John Deere ©
  11. Wildcat by Cushman
  12. Kubota by Lulich©
  13. Artic Cat factory
  14. Polaris factory
  15. Yamaha factory
  16. Kawasaki factory
  17. Payeur Inc by Metavic©
  18. Honda
  19. Kimpex Tracks TJD ©

© denotes confirmed vendors or displays as of Dec 30th.

There were many sales as a result of the Clinic. Vendors did sell their demos and we are encouraging this year’s vendors to load up their trucks and trailers for the Clinic.

The heated “Race Building” will again house tables for vendor’s displays, and will have grooming video tapes playing during the 2 days.

Tentative Schedule

Wed January 18th

8- 9:00 Registration coffee and rolls sponsored by Kubota- Lulich Implements

9- 12:00 Vendor Demos 15-20minutes /vendors on snow and demos following

12:00-1:30 Pasty lunch (and test drives) sponsored by Yellowstone Track Systems

1:30-2:00 Snow Cat Grooming Paul Swanson

2:00-2:30 Grooming from a Skiers Prospective Ken Hazel

2:30-3:00 Repairing ATV Trail Damage Bruce Slinkman

3:00-3:30 Snow Grooming with an ATV Doug Edgerton

3:30-4:00 Early Season Grooming Eric Anderson

4:00-5:00 Open skiing and demo of grooming equipment

6:30 –7:30 Social hour and vendors indoor table displays at Tacconellis 215 S. Suffolk St in Downtown Ironwood. Social hour sponsored by Tidd Tech

7:30-8:30 Dinner at Tacconelli’s sponsored by Snow Implements

8:30-9:00 Presentation

9:00–9:10 Grooming Trivia Test and Prizes

Thursday Jan 19th

8-9 AM registration coffee and rolls sponsored by Ski-doo- Aves Motor Center

9:00-10:00 Grooming competitions on ice and on deep snow

10:00 Snow Cat Renovator demonstration

10:15:-11:00 Snowmobile pulling competition and turning radius testing

10-11:00 Grooming 101 (Chalkboard Discussion) in the Lunch Room at ABR

11-12:00 Basic grooming on snow

12:00-1:00 Bratwursts on the grill sponsored by Pisten Bully

1:30-2:30 Setting up your Skandic SWT for grooming in the heated workshop

1:30-2:30 Tracksetting on snow

2:30-3:00 Grooming Scenarios

3:30-5:00 Open skiing and grooming

3:00 load and go… or stay and ski

This tentative schedule is being developed and details and specifics subject to change. Watch the website for updates. The general time slots will remain the same.

Bring your used equipment that you have for sale or a photo and ad to post on the FOR SALE board at the clinic!